WG: RE: [PIUG List] Are there free sites for translation of JP PCT's

Sorry Susan, my last mail was confusing.

Some new JP PCTs are digitally produced, there you get the flow text in dig=
ital form. Some may not be, especiallyt
older ones without equivalents or western national/regional entries, there =
you need expensive services.

National JP applications do not have a relation to this subject (error by =
me).

Kind regards, Niklaus Rotzler, Clariant

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Datum: 21.10.2008 09:21
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&#39;s

Dear Susan

unfortunately no. Paterra produces rather expensive OCR-based MTs, Thomson =
even more expensive ones in amendet
quality. The reason: PCTs are distributed as images only , not mixed mode t=
ext and images.

For this OCR is necessary, and with japanese letters this is difficult, for=
 this the quality is rather bad.

Newer JP national applications are digitally produced (like EPs), for this =
a MT is easy.

Kind regards, Niklaus Rotzler, Clariant.


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Datum: 20.10.2008 17:59
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;s

Hi all,
I could not find any websites translating JP PCTs.
The best work-round is however through patent scope:
http://www.wipo.int/pctdb/en/index.jsp
You can obtain a text version of the Japanese text which may be cut and
pasted into a translator such as Google. Not ideal granted, but at least
it can give you an rough and ready translation.
Best regards
Sue Helliwell

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From: chris_at_torrero.demon.co.uk [mailto:chris_at_torrero.demon.co.uk]
Sent: 03 October 2008 15:10
To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Subject: Re: [PIUG List] Are there free sites for translation of JP
PCT's

The Patent and Utility Model DB site of the Japanese Patent Office
provides fairly good machine translations, at least for Japanese A
documents.

It can be found at:
http://www4.ipdl.inpit.go.jp/Tokujitu/tjsogodben.ipdl?N0000=115

Chris Torrero
Information Officer
LGC Limited

mike_adelia_at_yahoo.com wrote:
> Dear PIUG members,
>
> Does anyone know if there are there free sites for translation of JP
PCT's like for JP documents on the PAJ website? I am aware of the fee
based services, but need a free resource for screening a lot of
documents.
>
> Regards,
> Mike Adelia
>
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