Just FYI about file wrappers-
I discovered by accident last month that the USPTO's Public PAIR
contains electronic copies of all the documents in the file wrapper for
US applications. You can even pick and choose - the list includes the
number of pages for each document and a check box. When you click on
"Start Download" all the selected documents will be put into a PDF file
which you can save.
There's a lot of data for granted patents, but not the file wrapper.
Donna Hopkins
Champion Technologies
-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron, Laurie [mailto:laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 6:01 PM
To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted patent number (EX)
Hello Chris-
Thank you very much for the information. I had no idea that we could get
the document from the USPTO. That is very good information.
Thank you very much. I really appreciate it.
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Torrero [mailto:chris_at_torrero.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2008 3:46 PM
To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Subject: Re: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted patent number (EX)
Dear Laurie,
Patent offices do not normally publish priority documents in their own
right. They are however generally made available when an application is
published/granted in order that anyone interested may establish whether
the claimed priority is justified.
In this case, the Japanese application JP04-069320 was used as priority
document for the equivalent US patent US5457473. It ought therefore to
be possible to inspect the priority document at the USPTO or with luck
get them to send you a copy. If you are very lucky, there may even be a
translation filed.
The fees page on the USPTO at:
http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/qs/ope/fee2007september30_2008august
0
1.htm
suggests that "Individual application documents, other than application
as filed" can be supplied. I would advise you to emphasise that you
require the Japanese priority document.
Good luck,
Chris Torrero
Information Officer
LGC Limited
In message
<1272CD5F2394B34B80780203E61EAB172876AFC6_at_PHLEX20.dechert.com>,
"Cameron, Laurie" <laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com> writes
>Do you have the priority application filed on 2/20/1992, or the one
>filed 10/09/1993, which everyone on PIUG has pulled form somewhere and
>sent to me. This is not what I want. If it was so easy I would not
>have asked Alan about it. Noone seem to be able to find the 2/20/1992
>priority application.
>
>
>________________________________
>
> From: Direktor David (Tami) [mailto:library_at_tami-imi.icl-ip.com]
>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:02 PM
> To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
> Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted patent
>number (EX)
>
>
> Laurie,
>
> It appears that Alan is too modest. The Paterra site
>(www.paterra.com) has an excellent search engine. All you need to do is
>to enter either of the numbers you give and the program parses them in
>several different ways. You will find the document you need there.
>Paterra charges $39 for a machine translation, which we have normally
>found to be sufficient for our needs. You can open an account or pay by
>credit card. The machine translation comes with the Japanese text in
>parallel, so if there is a problem, you have the original on view.
>
> David
>
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cameron, Laurie
>[mailto:laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 18:45
> To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
> Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted
>patent number
>
>
> How much will it cost? I haven't been able to find it
>anywhere It is JP 04-069320 The applicant is Hitachi the date of
>filing was 2/20/1992 The title is Image Display Device. The
>publication number is 05-232918.
>
>
>________________________________
>
> From: Alan [mailto:aengel_at_paterra.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:51 PM
> To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
> Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP
>granted patent number
>
>
>
> Dear Laurie,
>
> Thank you for this question.
>
> We can get any JP patent application.
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
> Alan Engel
>
> Paterra, Inc.
>
> Suite A24, 2-1-6 Sengen, Tsukuba
>
> Ibaraki 305-0047 Japan
>
> Email: aengel_at_paterra.com
>
>
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>
> From: Cameron, Laurie
>[mailto:laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:18 AM
> To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
> Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP
>granted patent number
>
> Alan-
>
> I have a JP Patent Application for which I can
>not find a copy of the full-text. I have tried everything We found a
US
>patent that is related to it, but the attorney does not think it is an
>equivalent. Can you help get hard to find JP patent applications?
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>
> From: Alan [mailto:aengel_at_paterra.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:44
>PM
> To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
> Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help
>interpreting JP granted patent number
>
> Dear Anne,
>
>
>
> Just to add to Darlyn's comment - Before
>April 1996, the B document was subject to an opposition process during
>which one or more of the claims could be rejected or amended. The
>existence of an opposition can be determined from the prosecution
>history. The Japanese version of PATOLIS also had this information. The
>C number is simply a registration number.
>
>
>
> Best regrds,
>
>
>
> Alan Engel
>
> Paterra, Inc.
>
> Suite A24, 2-1-6 Sengen, Tsukuba
>
> Ibaraki 305-0047 Japan
>
> Email: aengel_at_paterra.com
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>
> From: Barker, Anne
>[mailto:abarker_at_townsend.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:29
>AM
> To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
> Subject: [PIUG List] Help interpreting
>JP granted patent number
>
>
>
> I was wondering if someone might be able
>to help me decipher a JP numbering question I have. I have a patent
>with the following numbers attached to it:
>
> JP 02-82726 A (March 23, 1990 -
>unexamined application)
> JP 06-38676 B (May 18, 1994 - examined
>application)
> JP 1909055 C (February 24, 1995 -
>granted patent)
>
> I have gotten copies of both the A and
>the B document, but I can not find a copy of the C document anywhere,
>including in the JP Patent & Utility Model Gazette DB.
>
> I am being told by a vendor that the B
>document is the granted patent and the C number is "only the
>Registration Number for the granted patent", but the publication dates
>tell me otherwise (B is granted patent AFTER 1996).
>
> What am I missing here? Is there a JP C
>document with the number 1909055 on its face?
>
> Thanks,
> Anne
>
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