RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted patent number (EX)

From: Cameron, Laurie <laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 12:15:02 -0400

Do you have the priority application filed on 2/20/1992, or the one
filed 10/09/1993, which everyone on PIUG has pulled form somewhere and
sent to me. This is not what I want. If it was so easy I would not
have asked Alan about it. Noone seem to be able to find the 2/20/1992
priority application.


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        From: Direktor David (Tami) [mailto:library_at_tami-imi.icl-ip.com]

        Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:02 PM
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        Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted patent
number (EX)
        
        
        Laurie,
         
        It appears that Alan is too modest. The Paterra site
(www.paterra.com) has an excellent search engine. All you need to do is
to enter either of the numbers you give and the program parses them in
several different ways. You will find the document you need there.
Paterra charges $39 for a machine translation, which we have normally
found to be sufficient for our needs. You can open an account or pay by
credit card. The machine translation comes with the Japanese text in
parallel, so if there is a problem, you have the original on view.
         
        David
         
         

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                -----Original Message-----
                From: Cameron, Laurie
[mailto:laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com]
                Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 18:45
                To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
                Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP granted
patent number
                
                
                How much will it cost? I haven't been able to find it
anywhere It is JP 04-069320 The applicant is Hitachi the date of
filing was 2/20/1992 The title is Image Display Device. The
publication number is 05-232918.


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                        From: Alan [mailto:aengel_at_paterra.com]
                        Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 6:51 PM
                        To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
                        Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP
granted patent number
                        
                        

                        Dear Laurie,

                        Thank you for this question.

                        We can get any JP patent application.

                        Best regards,

                        

                        Alan Engel

                        Paterra, Inc.

                        Suite A24, 2-1-6 Sengen, Tsukuba

                        Ibaraki 305-0047 Japan

                        Email: aengel_at_paterra.com

                         

                        
                        
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                        From: Cameron, Laurie
[mailto:laurie.cameron_at_dechert.com]
                        Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 10:18 AM
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                        Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help interpreting JP
granted patent number

                        Alan-

                        I have a JP Patent Application for which I can
not find a copy of the full-text. I have tried everything We found a US
patent that is related to it, but the attorney does not think it is an
equivalent. Can you help get hard to find JP patent applications?

                        Laurie

                                
                                
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                                From: Alan [mailto:aengel_at_paterra.com]
                                Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 3:44
PM
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                                Subject: RE: [PIUG List] Help
interpreting JP granted patent number

                                Dear Anne,

                                  

                                Just to add to Darlyn's comment - Before
April 1996, the B document was subject to an opposition process during
which one or more of the claims could be rejected or amended. The
existence of an opposition can be determined from the prosecution
history. The Japanese version of PATOLIS also had this information. The
C number is simply a registration number.

                                  

                                Best regrds,

                                  

                                Alan Engel

                                Paterra, Inc.

                                Suite A24, 2-1-6 Sengen, Tsukuba

                                Ibaraki 305-0047 Japan

                                Email: aengel_at_paterra.com

                                  
                                
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                                From: Barker, Anne
[mailto:abarker_at_townsend.com]
                                Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2008 2:29
AM
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                                Subject: [PIUG List] Help interpreting
JP granted patent number

                                  

                                I was wondering if someone might be able
to help me decipher a JP numbering question I have. I have a patent
with the following numbers attached to it:

                                JP 02-82726 A (March 23, 1990 -
unexamined application)
                                JP 06-38676 B (May 18, 1994 - examined
application)
                                JP 1909055 C (February 24, 1995 -
granted patent)

                                I have gotten copies of both the A and
the B document, but I can not find a copy of the C document anywhere,
including in the JP Patent & Utility Model Gazette DB.

                                I am being told by a vendor that the B
document is the granted patent and the C number is "only the
Registration Number for the granted patent", but the publication dates
tell me otherwise (B is granted patent AFTER 1996).

                                What am I missing here? Is there a JP C
document with the number 1909055 on its face?

                                Thanks,
                                Anne

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