RE: [PIUG List] U.S. application number format

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-----Original Message-----
From: Austin, Robert [mailto:Robert.Austin_at_fiz-k.com]
Sent: Monday, 21 April, 2008 9:34 AM
To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Subject: RE: [PIUG List] U.S. application number format

Dear PIUG-L

Just a brief reminder that provisional application numbers (series 60)
are distinguished in all major international patent databases from
application numbers with an unambiguous standardised suffix "P". This
includes Espacenet, INPADOC, CAplus and the Derwent World Patents Index.

Of course this format, just like any other, does require that the
publishing authority uses the correct series in the details that they
publish.

Rob

Robert Austin
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-----Original Message-----
From: Gerben Gieling [mailto:Gerben.Gieling_at_synthon.nl]
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:54 AM
To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Subject: RE: [PIUG List] U.S. application number format

Stephen,

In fact your example goes further than Alan's original assumption. Alan
suggested that no information would be lost when writing US application
numbers are written as 8 digit numbers. Your example shows that the
current Espacenet (and Inpadoc) approach of replacing the series number
by an application year can create unclarity concerning the true priority
where the (complete) source data is absolutely clear.


Gerben

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Adams [mailto:stevea_at_magister.co.uk]
Sent: Monday, 21 April, 2008 11:12
To: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Cc: PIUG Discussion List @ Listbox
Subject: Re: [PIUG List] U.S. application number format


Dear Alan
Although it will not take into account the finer details of the scheme
as given by Carl Oppedahl, you may find the following list helpful:
<http://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/ac/ido/oeip/taf/filingyr.htm>
This provides a concordance table such that, given a filing year, it is
possible to derive the series code. It shows that some series commenced

at a point in time which did not coincide with the end of the calendar
year. The one year to watch out for is 2003, when the regular filing
series 10
grew from approx. 350,000 to 750,000 at the same time as the provisional

application series 60 increased from 437,000 to 532,000. I have
examples where a PCT filing based on a series 60 priority from 2003 was
erroneously put into the same family with other cases claiming priority
from the series 10 application with the same number and year. Clearly,
in this particular case, combining a year with a serial number leads to
an ambiguous result.
Stephen

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